Orlando's a really cool guy. They hired him for 'Lord of the Rings' out of drama school. He's very new at this still and doesn't have a lot of experience. So we were in this together and we've tried to help each other out. We felt very equal which was good.
I had pro offers from the Detroit Lions and Green Bay Packers who were pretty hard up for linemen in those days. If I had gone into professional football the name Jerry Ford might have been a household word today.
