But if the choice is a cool president and 8 or 10 percent unemployment in a declining economy and a country that seems to be going in the wrong direction and structural unemployment for young people at 50 percent I'd rather have a dorky president who fixed those problems.

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And so when I moved to IBM I moved because I thought I could apply technology. I didn't actually have to do my engineer - I was an electrical engineer but I could apply it. And that was when I changed. And when I got there though I have to say at the time I really never felt there was a constraint about being a woman. I really did not.