It was taunted as reality. It was dangled as a carrot. In terms of people's hopes and dreams to say that that is less of a reality than the daily grind they find themselves in is maybe not correct.

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I love all the old classic Disney movies. 'Pinocchio.' There are obviously tons of them that anybody growing up on that stuff takes with them their whole lives and I'm an admirer of a lot of classic animation and fairy tales. I grew up on a book of Grimm's fairy tales that I kind of wore out again and again. That's all stuff that lingers with you.