The '20s ended in an era of extravagance sort of like the one we're in now. There was a big crash but then the country picked itself up again and we had some great years. Those were the days when American believed in itself. I was happy and proud to be painting it.

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You got to have a courageous president to stand up and says listen if - if you send a bill to me that spends more money than what we've coming in I'll veto it. I mean I'm going to try to work with you the best I can but I'm going to veto it.