Because bankers measure their self-worth in money and pay themselves a lot of it they think they're fine fellows and don't need to explain themselves.

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I think there's a time to work and everyone has to kind of adjust. And then there's a time to relax and be the mom or take the kids on vacation when you need to wind down. So it's a matter of planning and being able to map out your year or your week or let's start with the day. It is just being multi-tasking and being available.