If you're not a real chameleon of an actor and if you're not one of those guys who can really shape-change themselves all the time one of the ways to keep pushing yourself and keep changing is to be in different kinds of movies.

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I do feel like I have always in my life been inclined to be on the outside walk a different path or something. Because of that and increasingly over the years my sense of distance from mainstream society or from the way culture works I have a different kind of perception of it.