It was a good 15 or 20 years before anyone at Rand would be in the same room with me. They didn't want the question raised 'What's your relationship with Daniel Ellsberg?' And not one of them wrote me a letter because they didn't want a letter of theirs to show up in my trash - which the FBI had been going through.

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I saw and I met a lot of people who were in the field. It also provided a context in which I came to respect what the actor did because I saw how difficult it actually was to do.