In 1977 at least he wished to have people believe that he shared and was proud of an attitude toward women that is not acceptable in a politician. In 2003 all he has said is that he doesn't remember the interview.

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Moreover behind this vague tendency to treat religion as a side issue in modern life there exists a strong body of opinion that is actively hostile to Christianity and that regards the destruction of positive religion as absolutely necessary to the advance of modern culture.