At the end of drama school I made a contract with myself: I'd try acting for five years. I was 26. I had already spent eight years working in restaurants and gas stations. So I had seen enough small businesses to understand that that's what acting is: a small business.

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There's not a lot of room anymore for what I call 'made-up' drama. The drama comes from real places now - marriage takes work and focus the kid stuff takes patience and commitment. And if you don't grow as people and as a couple within all of that then you've got some real drama.