With Stacy it was interesting because you know he was within all this chaos all these different lives that were so broken and so much anger and so much frustration and their skating came out of that their different styles came out of that.
Winning in Afghanistan is having a country that is stable enough to ensure that there is no safe haven for Al Qaida or for a militant Taliban that welcomes Al Qaida. That's really the measure of success for the United States.